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  • Fri, May 30 2008 1:44 PM

    • tobyjt
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    Hmm [^o)] HDV-SD50P Workflow

    Hello again!

    For some reason, someone shot on HDV-SD and I now need to edit this footage.

    Is there an Avid workflow for this;?

    HDV-SD50P

    Thanks for ANY help,

     

    Toby

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  • Sat, May 31 2008 12:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    Could you clarify at all?  HDV is not SD.  Are you saying they shot SD on an HDV camera like the Sony Z1?  In that case it will be 50i DVCam.

    If you can clarify which camera was used and in which mode it was recorded we may be able to help.

    regards

    Brian

     

     

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  • Sat, May 31 2008 4:42 PM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    It's SD PAL, HDV format (or rather Mpeg2 HDV encoded SD)

    I don't know why the camera records in this format, but it does, and they used it.

    I now need to edit this footage and need an offline/online workflow. I have 14 hours of footage in this format...so an offline/online workflow is definately required Smile

     

    thanks

     

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  • Mon, Jun 2 2008 5:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    anyone?

    any ideas?

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  • Mon, Jun 2 2008 6:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    It would really help if you could find out what camera it was shot on.
    Have you been given tapes or files?

    regards

    Brian

     

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  • Mon, Jun 2 2008 8:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    JVC GY-HD111E

    HDV Tape

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  • Tue, Jun 3 2008 10:26 AM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    Looks like the best option might be to use the JVC BR-HD50 deck and upconvert to 720p 50 and edit in an Avid 720p 50 project.  I don't have experience of this myself, have only had 720p 25 footage from that camera.  The manual is a bit vague but suggest that it can cross convert within a given frame rate.  Might be worth a call to JVC to clarify. An HDV 2 deck like the Sony's not going to be any use.

    What deliverables are required at the end of the day?  Even if you can edit it you also need to think about the other end.

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  • Tue, Jun 3 2008 3:18 PM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    But 720/50 HDV isn't supported by Avid (yet), and the 720p signal crashes FCP on import for some reason on my mac. I'm using the BR-HD50 deck, outputting 720p.

    See attached photo to see the HDV-SD format the camera used !

     


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  • Tue, Jun 3 2008 6:20 PM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    Sorry I thought there was a way to get JVC 720p 50 into a 720p 50 project, maybe not direct injest but thought there was a way. 

    regards

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  • Tue, Jun 3 2008 6:30 PM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    Maybe via Component and a breakout box?

    ...but I don't think I can get onto our Symphony for a good 2 weeks (for 14 hours of just capturing lol) and this project needs to be cut in 3 weeks.

    I'll output PAL on component to DV and use that as my master.

     

    This is for broadcast though.....will the quality be poor? (is it worth using DigiBeta instead ?)...bearing in mind this is being converted in camera from HDV-576P/50 to 576i/50 ....or should it look ok?

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  • Wed, Jun 4 2008 9:32 AM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    This is for broadcast though.....

    Ahh, I stupidly thought that they'd shot 50p for a good reason, like smooth computer playback.

    In that case I'd look at the 576i output on a Grade 1 CRT monitor and see what it looks like.  If it takes one field from each frame and interlaces them correctly then a component capture or dub sounds fine.  Although if you are looking for a progressive look at the end of the day it would be better to find a way to drop every second frame? Can't think of an easy way to do that though.

    regards

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  • Wed, Jun 4 2008 5:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    Toby!

    We are doing this over one year, and it works just fine: Record on JVC GY-HD100 / SD50P. Playback over a JVC BR-HD50 via component into the Mojo/MC, 1:2 compressed. Editing is on the MC 2.0 and Output via coponent video to a DVW500P Digital Betacam. No problem and everybody thinks that it was recorded on Digital Betacam.

    Easy and looks fine!

    Wolfgang

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    We dont have Mojo or adrenaline here, just a Nitris Symphony online suite. Since this project has so much footage (14 hours), I think I will probably use 10:1 for the offline. However without the mojo/adr. I will have to duplicate all of the HDV tapes to DigiBeta, becoming my new masters....which should look good (right ?)

     

    thanks Wolfgang!

     

    Toby

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  • Fri, Jun 13 2008 9:25 AM In reply to

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    Re: HDV-SD50P Workflow

    Toby!

    Sorry for the delay. I've been in Greece for a week.

    This depends on Your storage. I have 4 TB, so there is no need to be offline. But You have a Digibeta DVW500, you can use it as converter from Component to SDI. No need to copy the tapes.

     

    All the best

    Wolfgang

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