Has anybody noticed animatte and paint effect shapes just randomly moving around every so often when you change or render something else?

Like ill come back to an effect i havent touched in a while and the shape has just moved lower on its own...

this has to be a bug - how is it that i roto something out with 3 shapes in a animatte effect, and i come back later and all 3 shapes, including their animation/tracking, are now WAY off the screen, but in the some positions relative to each other?

I know i didn't move it, or even touch that effect. Now im making mixdowns of every shot as i finish them because apparantly symphony cant handle this many layers of color correction.

somebody please explain to me why avid abandoned DS for this...

joeydanna:

somebody please explain to me why avid abandoned DS for this...

I don't belive Avid has abandoned DS, and yea DS is probbaly a better choice for this kind of work...

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I find tracking shapes is where I see the shifts you discribe.  I especially notice it when I borrow an ID blur I've done on a shot and I find the same shot used in the open or tease and when I apply the same effect sometimes I get the shift of everything.  IIRC if I redo the track it helps but I agree it's a pain and it seems like sometimes if I have to tweak the color on a shot with an ID blur when I rerender the blur effect the shape has shifted.  Sometimes it's involve with stacked tracked shapes which use to be a problem but seems to have been fixed but maybe there is still a bug there.  Use to be if you tracked a shape on V2 and then tried to track a shape on V3 the shape would sort of sling shot from where you placed it to a position with some offset.  With a little practice you anticipate the sling shot and postion with the offset in mind and get close but it was a pain.  That behavior has seemed to improve but I usually render the V2 layer first then address V3 etc...  Sometimes if V2 becomes unrendered I start to see those offset errors.  I'm seeing this on mac SNDX4.0.5 but I don't know if 5.5/6 act any different.

Im on 5.0.3 - I'm glad im not the only one this has happened too...

Im talking about 4 or 5 or more tracked shapes on both animatte and paint effects per shot. I know its a lot, but they really shouldnt just randomly move after im done working on them.

And yea i know they havent officially abandoned DS - I'm just kind of venting because most of my clients have phased out their DS systems because they don't feel its worth it to keep them up to date. i would have loved a DS for this project, but you gotta make the most of what you have access too ;)