mjolnarn:

A strange question, of course it is supported, I am doing it all the time

 

He was obviously asking because something he read made him unsure. I don't think it was a strange question.

videojon:

mjolnarn:

A strange question, of course it is supported, I am doing it all the time

 

He was obviously asking because something he read made him unsure. I don't think it was a strange question.

I do think it was strange, like saying that trimming or colour correction not was possible any longer with MC 6.

Getting media into your editing application is one of the very basics, of course it have to be working.

With that beeing said it isn´t working on all systems and that´s the reason to why Avid have specified certain hardware to be certified.

1394 Via chipsets are known to be problematic whilst Texas Instrument 1394 chipsets almost always works.

mjolnarn:

 it was strange, like saying that trimming or colour correction not was possible any longer with MC 6.

Getting media into your editing application is one of the very basics, of course it have to be working.

With that beeing said it isn´t working on all systems and that´s the reason to why Avid have specified certain hardware to be certified.

1394 Via chipsets are known to be problematic whilst Texas Instrument 1394 chipsets almost always works.

 

 

His technical reasoning - or lack of - isn't the point, only your condescending reaction to this guys question.

"OK OK now - let's be nice..."

 - Buckaroo Bonzai

OK, So in the MC6 System Requirements document both the Dell T3400 and HP xw4600 have been "down certified" with the "HD capture NOT supported" annotation. However, this issue has existed for me forever. I have always found workarounds that keep me in business. This would not be the first time that an Avid certified system has been dropped from certification for failing to perform as previously certified. It's a crap shoot. Be prepared to upgrade if you want to use these tools. As you may have noticed I am a die hard Avid guy in spite of these frustrations. (Started non linear day one on Media Suite Pro)  It is THE superior editing platform. Sometimes ya just gotta suck it up and move on. So all I've tried to do here was share a viable workaround for all those dealing with the same weaknesses I'm dealing with. Like I said, I hope this works for you! It works! Stop cryin and go edit!

Perhaps, now im back infront of the forum, i can now defend/explain myself (as ive been away for a day or 2 making what will likely be an international hit record, as Im a sound producer mixer by day, not editor - only that as a downtime hobby)

My question re mc6 and hdv capture was from the position that I read

"Just a follow up. I was looking at the system requirements for MC6 and was suprised to see that my Dell T3400 while still certified has a new annotation saying HD Capture not supported!?!"

As Im currently rebuilding my computer and am about to install mc6 any minute, I was just making sure as the post "implied" that perhaps it didnt support HDV anymore. Id have no way of knowing so was just checking.

Sorry if you felt I should have known this information, but I didnt, and it would have STOPPED me from upgrading 5 to 6, so was relevant to me and my camera.

If it was a lack of technical reasoning - perhaps. I didnt research it all. Just asked as I had little time before a flght. If that annoys, Sorry!

Peter

Peter, my comment wasn´t directed against you at all, more general and to comment some uncorrect info given in this thread, sorry if I was unclear.

And, again, firewire capturing from cams will be supported in Media Composer for as long as these cams exists I believe and there is no difference in behaviour between MC 6 and earlier versions of Media Composer

mjolnarn:

to comment some uncorrect info given in this thread, sorry if I was unclear.

Hello Tomas,

A couple of points I would like to make. Please don't take them the wrong way

mjolnarn:

1394 Via chipsets are known to be problematic whilst Texas Instrument 1394 chipsets almost always works.

I know that you do very well with your english (och jag kan lite svenska, med små fel) But to me "problematic" and "almost always work" are the same thing. So I find that confusing.

Then on to the VIA chipset urban legend. I think that we have this discussion from time to time.
I came from Liquid, as did you, and in the Liquid days it was a well known fact that VIA chipset Firewire ports were not recommended. I avoided them like the plague, as did any other Liquid user.
My 3 most recent computer builds for MC all have VIA chipset firewire ports on the motherboard! The boards are from Asus, and a large number of their motherboards have VIA chipset firewire ports.
I don't know if it is possible that the VIA chipset has been improved on since the days of Liquid or what. I would not write it off as being so problematic these days.
Having said that, however, one way or the other, there are quite a few users who have reported various problems with capturing from Sony tape decks. If that has to do with the chipset or not - I cannot say.

I have a VIA chipset, I can capture from 3 different Sony decks without problems.

Regards,
Douglas

Hi Peter,

Peterdubbingmixer:

My question re mc6 and hdv capture was from the position that I read

"Just a follow up. I was looking at the system requirements for MC6 and was suprised to see that my Dell T3400 while still certified has a new annotation saying HD Capture not supported!?!"

As Im currently rebuilding my computer and am about to install mc6 any minute, I was just making sure as the post "implied" that perhaps it didnt support HDV anymore. Id have no way of knowing so was just checking.

Just to clarify, Whitehorse's was talking about the fact that HD capture is no longer supported in MC6 on the Dell 3400 specifically. It's not that Avid has stopped supporting HD playback across the board, it's that that machine - which used to be fully supported with older versions of MC - is no longer fast enough.

Hope that helps.

ciao,
Carl 

I am on VIA too.

Almost all new motherboards are using VIA now.

But the captures fail with whatever chipset you have some times.

It's no secret anymore that DV/HDV is picky at MC for a long time.

Not that is a show stopper but it's harder some times to capture.

In comparison with Liquid Premiere etc MC is stranger at that aspect.

We have to live with it as we are living with the broken .avi support

or the mpeg which can't be imported while other flavors of it can and do fine.

I suspect that the coders doesn't know those things are important for so many new users.

That's my best bet.

Thanks Camoscato. That was the clarification I was seeking.

Peter