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  • Tue, Apr 5 2011 7:37 AM

    • arsimago
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    Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    I've a project in avid ds 1920x1080 interlaced, now i'must import a files format apple pro res 422 hq.

    It's possiblle? If yes how color format??

    I'have the possibility a tracode this file in automatick duck as DX uncompressed 10 bit...

     

    Thank you.

     

    Alessandro

  • Tue, Apr 5 2011 1:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    Apple does not offer a Windows based QT encoder for the ProRes codec. So DS would not be able to export as such. You will need to look to another codec for the transfer. DNxHD has encoders and decoders on Mac and Windows and could be one of the considerations.

     

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  • Tue, Apr 5 2011 1:28 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    But if you truly want to "import" a QuickTime Pro Res in Avid DS, you need version 10.5 and one of the latest Apple player update (7.6.6+), and then yes, it is absolutely possible.

    As for the color format, since the project is video, I suggest the ITU 601-709 LUT, but obviously you can experiment if this does not provide the result you expected.

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  • Tue, Apr 5 2011 1:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    Oops - yes, Import can happen as there is a decoder. I misread the original question and saw "from DS" and assumed export...

     

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    You can also import them into DS v10.3.1. (You might have to load the ProRes Codec from Apple, but it works.

     

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    ProRes codec is now part of Quicktime (Quicktime Pro for sure). You don't need to install anything other than the Quicktime player that's qualified for DS. If you can double click and play the clip back on the desktop it will import in DS. The color level is 601/709 technically speaking, but if the levels were wrong in Final Cut in the first place they will import the same way in DS.

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  • Tue, Apr 5 2011 4:32 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    I've had a bunch of HD Apple Pro Res files lately (on v10.5)
    that refuses to import, but linking the same file works fine,
    well, except for the 12-channel audio which gets f*cked up.

    Any thought on that. Sylvain...? I mean the video part...

    //mike

  • Tue, Apr 5 2011 5:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    I had similar problems - each audio track in the prores would become 4 in DS. so a 16 channel prores file (dont ask - assistant editor wasnt the sharpest tool in the shed) wouldnt import, but it would link, and it would have 64 tracks of audio.

     

    a trick is to seperate the audio and video, go into quicktime pro, select window -> show movie properties, then select the video track and hit extract. then save as and make sure not to make it self contained. this will make a video only reference file, that should import into DS. then you can export the audios individually if you need them, and bring them in as wavs.

     

     

  • Wed, Apr 6 2011 2:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    M-Edit:

    I've had a bunch of HD Apple Pro Res files lately (on v10.5) that refuses to import, but linking the same file works fine ...

    Any thought on that. Sylvain...? I mean the video part...

    //mike

    Yes, engineering received last week a sample of such a "new" HD Pro Res file that showed an interesting format of 1280 by 1080 and a pixel ratio of 0.6. That indeed would not capture. Does your properties read similarly?

    Engineering will modify the code to adapt to these new formats, although it is hard for us to read in the future an foresee such changes...

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  • Wed, Apr 6 2011 2:17 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    joeydanna:

    ... each audio track in the prores would become 4 in DS. so a 16 channel prores file (dont ask - assistant editor wasnt the sharpest tool in the shed) wouldnt import, but it would link, and it would have 64 tracks of audio.

    But are you sure that the "Import audio into separate mono tracks" option was not selected?

    This can be turned ON when you create a New Sequence or later in the File > Sequence Preferences > Audio tab.

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  • Tue, Jun 14 2011 2:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    Sylvain, what if the imported file has 4 or 8 tracks of audio? I have no problems with the video so far, but whenever i try to import a file with 4 or 8 tracks of audio, the DS captures the video fine, and the first track of audio, and then gives an error, so the captured file only has video and one track of audio.

    This has become a real problem since most of the files we use have at least 4 audio tracks, and the only workaround has been to extract the individual audio tracks to WAV files using Quicktime, then capturing all the resulting WAV files in DS. We're using 10.5 and Quicktime 7.6.9.

    We also use a lot of .mxf files, which we first dump on a sequence in Media Composer, to be able to make a quicktime reference file to import the footage into DS, but we run into the same problem. If the sequence has more than 2 audio tracks, we get the error. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thank you,

    Martin D

  • Tue, Jun 14 2011 2:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    Sorry, DS-MAD, but that's just the way it's been all along
    in DS10.x, and still is in DS10.5. Don't know about 10.5.1
    though, cause I haven't installed it yet.

    The workaround to get some "working audio" imported
    with the video is to use Quicktime Pro and delete any"
    soundtracks" exceeding "soundtrack 1" and then re-save
    the modified version as a Quicktime Reference file, and
    import (or link it into the DS.

    But it doesn't help if you need to have all the audio in
    a file, say stereo-mix, 5.1 audio, separate mx and fx etc.
    imported with the video.
    Then you're forced to do the extraction/importing
    method you metion.

    //mike

  • Tue, Jun 14 2011 4:55 PM In reply to

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    Re: Import Apple Pro Res from avid ds

    DS-MAD:

    Sylvain, what if the imported file has 4 or 8 tracks of audio?

    That works if the audio is made of mono tracks. If the QuickTime file includes a pair of stereo tracks, Avid DS is indeed not yet capable of importing them.

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