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  • Wed, Sep 8 2010 9:35 PM

    • Indyreel
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    What format do I use for filmout?

    I am using a GH1 for my first feature film and am shooting in AVCHD 1080/24p.  I want to prep. for a theatrical release and need to know what format I should edit with in MC5.

    Please help.

    Thanks

  • Wed, Sep 8 2010 9:44 PM In reply to

    Re: What format do I use for filmout?

    I would contact the post house that will be doing the film transfer.  Their opinion matters most.

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  • Thu, Sep 9 2010 12:48 AM In reply to

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    Re: What format do I use for filmout?

    Also, remember, the GH1 shoots 60i for the 24p, so you'll need a program like NeoScene to convert 60I to 24p, or you can make a 60I project in Avid first , then open your bins into a 24p/23.97 project and the Avid motion adapters will do the conversion for you.

     

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  • Sat, Sep 11 2010 12:11 AM In reply to

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    Re: What format do I use for filmout?

    But isn't there an list of industry standard formats that are pro level for a filmout our theatrical distribution? i.e. mpeg2 or DNxHD145

  • Sat, Sep 11 2010 12:21 AM In reply to

    Re: What format do I use for filmout?

    ... or DPX

    At the post house I used to work for, if it was going back to film, it was uncompressed all the way.  We had DS's, Clipster's, Prontos, Nucodas, and DRS's ... all could access the same DPX files on our TerraBlock storage.

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  • Sat, Sep 11 2010 2:46 AM In reply to

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    Re: What format do I use for filmout?

    +1 to everything Randall said.

    I do allot of work for film out, and it's all uncompressed, usualy inside a DCI-2K project in a DS, usualy running DPX or RAW sources.

    I would really suggest extensive tests if you are shooting 60i and wanting it get it to a film print that has to run at 24p... but really i would not recomend shooting anything at 60i for film out.

    Good luck.. now that the price of DS has dropped so much it may make sense to work with tools that are better suited to film out?

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  • Sat, Sep 11 2010 6:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: What format do I use for filmout?

    I shot everything on a Panasonic GH1 AVCHD in 1080/24P mode.  Does this mean I can't filmout or do I just need to edit in the correct format?

  • Sat, Sep 11 2010 7:23 PM In reply to

    Re: What format do I use for filmout?

    Most likely, the filmout facility will want you to do as little with the original footage as possible, so that they can manipulate it in the best way to blow it up.

    Sure, you could make DPX files, but if they suck, so will your filmout. Taking AVCHD footage to the big screen is something that you will need their experience on, if only for the color space conversions that are going to be needed. This is NOT an easy thing, and NOT something that you can easily experiment with, unless you have an infinite amount of time and money.

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  • Sun, Sep 12 2010 1:57 AM In reply to

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    Re: What format do I use for filmout?

    What all the others have said I agree with in spades.  But the best advice is if you haven't already decided on a lab, hunt around.  Find one that specialises in dealing with your type of problem and ask to see their showreel - if they're any good they'll have one.  See if you can get big-screen screenings of other similar work that they've done.

    If they pass all that to your satisfaction, check out their rates.  Discuss with them what it will cost you to do tests prior to commencing production.  Ask if they can offer help in designing your workflow.  There may be a consultancy fee for this service, but in practice I've never encountered one.

    Once all that is settled, start production.  A good rule of thumb is that it will cost you more to fix problems at the end of post-production than to avoid them at the start of production.

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