wsimonett:http://www.avid.com/exchange/blogs/tipstrends/archive/2007/11/13/288333.aspxthis is what is broken in Avid-- P2 importThanks
-- Bob Russo Post-Production Workflow Manager - NFL Films
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On March 8th, BobRusso posted: "We were able to reproduce this in-house and its logged as a bug. With 2.8 on a Mac, P2 clips can't be directly imported from a card or other mounted P2 device. The workaround is to copy the contents to a folder on a HFS+ formatted drive."
Some 4 months later, the last and final update to 2.8 is posted, w/o a fix to this broken, very important functionality. Dang it! The pretty P2 workflow tutorial goes unrequited, and 2.8 Tiger folk are out of luck... or does it work in 3.0? Let's see... the SDI Mojo I own is broken in 3.0. And some rendering stuff as well.
A 2.8.x CPM release addressing this particular issue would be greatly appreciated. Or tell us why exactly it broke between 2.7 and 2.8, so we can lick our wounds...
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Hi wsimonett, I don't know if this will help you, but I was getting the same message "No clips were found!" when trying to import 'clips to bin' from an external FW HDD. As a test I moved the media folder to an internal partition and tried again and Avid imported without a hitch. My issue was, and I am not sure if this was the reason, as I am not a long time professional editor, that my external HDD was formated as Mac OS Extended Journaled Case Sensitive. Once I repartitioned it as just Mac OS extended Journaled problem solved. I other area is the difference between GUID for Intel and the Apple style partition table. Maybe this was a facture, as I can't remember what the external HDD partition was originally. It was partitioned on a PowerBook G4 with 10.4.11 on it.
Just a anyother note on P2 import/Clips to Bin. There is a tutorial that suggests that you can save time when converting DVCPROHD to Avid DNxHD codec, where you import/Clips to Bin, select the clips in the bin, and then Transcode the clips before import/Media, which cuts out the step of importing the media. The issue I have come across is once I have the Transcoded DNxHD clips in the bin, if I exit from MC 3.0, when I start it up again and open the project the clips are online but the audio isn't. I have tried it a number of times and the same result. But if I add the import/Media and then do the Transcode to the DNxHD codec the audio stays online.
Steve.
This was Bill Nelson that posted this update. Not me. I haven't tried it with MC 3.0 Been using FCP.
Sorry
The only issue I've seen where a Virtual P2 card will not import is if there's a '/' or other non standard character in any of the folders names. This is most often used for dates. Remove or change these characters to '_' and it should import.
As far as transcoding the video to a different codec without importing the media; since the audio isn't being transcoded, its uncompressed, it isn't being consolidated. I suggest selecting the "convert audio format" and leave it as MXF. This will force the Avid to consolidate the audio when the video is being transcoded.
I believe this is the tutorial you mentioned:
http://community.avid.com/blogs/training/archive/2008/04/23/streamline-your-p2-workflow.aspx
Importing from a Fat 32 P2 devices has been fixed in 3.0 and 3.01. There is still an issue using the File > Import P2 and having more than one volume mounted at a time since they are all mounted with the same "NO NAME". The Media Tool must be used if more than one "NO NAME" volume is mounted.
The issue with 3.0 is with the Leopard Firewire driver and DNA devices. Shortly after the 3.0 release, Avid released Media Composer 3.01 with support for Tiger and the DNA devices.
Thanks for the post, Bob. To stay on topic, I'm referring specifically to P2 files deriving from physically-mounted P2 devices, such as a camera. Is this 'fixed' in 3.0? And am I to understand that 3.0.1 will function properly under Tiger w/my SDI Mojo?
Sorry for being so pedantic...
To use the File - Import P2, a single physical P2 device that mounts a single "NO NAME" drive works. If more than one NO NAME drive is mounted, in the case of a P2 Store or multi-card reader, the Media Tool must be used to pull the clips off.
The only issue with 3.0 and DNA devices is the Leopard Firewire driver. There isn't an issue with the DX hardware or the software only. But because of this Avid went back and added support for 10.4.11 for the DNA devices with 3.01.
So yes, P2 and DNA devices are working.
Hi Bob,
Thanks for your suggestion on forcing Avid to consolidate the MXF uncompressed audio when transcoding P2 media.
"So yes, P2 and DNA devices are working."
in that case, I'm going to mow some lawns and save up!
thanks, Bob
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