Hi -- we have the latest (or close to it) MC on PC and we are struggling with remote editing options. We use evercast now but it's horribly expensive and it does NOT allow you to edit and remote view at the same time. Does anyone know which program would allow me to edit in real time, which one or several other people watched my screen remotely? (Zoom is a clunky mess so please dont suggest that laugh). It seems all the programs like Frame IO etc offer remote viewing but not real time editing. Or do I have that wrong? I know for certain evercast doesnt support it.

Thoughts?

THANKS!

Hi there I've looked into this a fair bit.

I'm not exactly sure why you think you can't edit and stream with evercast but we researched alternaties a lot, because of cost really

There are things such as Clearview flex from Sohonet but this requires hardware and definitely isn't cheap.

There is something I've just seen called pixelview.io whch takes an SRT stream from Avid and I think in the latest version you can stream and watch on say a BMD card at the smae time. The drawback is there isn;t really a way to conrtrol the bandwidth very much in Avid and low bandwidth is still 5 - 15 M I think. But you can stream the output then to multiple others. It's hard to say what the latency is with this but it could be pretty low.

You can also use a WebRTC streaming service.. this way you can control the bandwidth and do a very similar thing to evercast for much less money. For this you eitehr stream NDI from Avid and then encode in OBS or SRT and OBS .. or get a hardware box to capture SDI/HDMI and stream that.

WebRTC is very low latency, so you get it down to a few frames from source to viewer . 

There are a few poepl offering WebRTC streaming, Dolby.io is one.  The advantage of this approach is you control the encoding entirely, frame size, frame rate, bandwidth, codec. which makes it more flexible under difficult upload conditions. To get very low latency there is no reencoding but what this also means you have to make a stream that works for all end users and network conditions. You can make multiple streams but not in all codecs. 

These allow a full screen playback for the viewer and the editor can carry on.

The hard thing is it does depend on the edit set up.. MAC's are harder than PC's we've found and if you are encoding on the same system as editing you need some computer power but it's hard to say how much

Nige

We use parsec warp at our office for remote editing. It's works a dream for us and is really really cheap.

it's built on a gaming platform so the latency is really low.

you can download a 2 week trial to test. https://parsec.app/warp?&utm_term=parsec%20warp&utm_campaign=&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=6859147472&hsa_cam=19243157470&hsa_grp=144812663256&hsa_ad=641074249851&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-1928400406027&hsa_kw=parsec%20warp&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAiA76-dBhByEiwAA0_s9dmvBkJtBcdS4qqo8zOJrkAgSqXvuGo0icNhPitnPqsMS2AEx-OH_BoCZcMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

the directors or producers can log in too, using a free account and they can see what screen you choose to send them, whether that's the timeline or full screen output.

then Just have a WhatsApp call active, so you can all talk if need.

We use this also but if you have a remote edit with a full output card and monitor you can't stream that..

Parsec and Reem.io are both great for remote edit control

N

Thanks all. We like evercast but it constantly freezes up the avid and no amount of tech support seems able to help.

Also evercast has the feature where you can all see eachother. We dont want to give those up.

Are you saying that with parsec you can edit in real time while people watch? 

100% yes. Obviously it's down to your and their internet connection.

One of our editors described his experience as its was like he was sat in front of the suite, but he was actually sat on a laptop in his home kitchen. It was the responsive to him.

a director friend has used it loads too, to dial into edits. He likes to watch the timeline screen as you can see the monitor output there, that then gives him chance to discuss edit points on the timeline too.

In the past we used 2 different solutions: Teradici and RGS (HP).

But HP bought Teradici and now it's rebranded into 1 solution HP Anywere.

Better than Parsec in my opinion. Install and licensing is complex but it works great.