Just read the release notes for 2022.10. It mentions that FreeType fonts are now useable, and there's a rendering fix for titles in 1080i/50. Curious to hear what other improvements have been made to Titler+ in this release as we sail towards the end of another year - thanks.

Other than bug fixes, I'm unaware of any improvements to the T+ in this release.

bonang:

Just read the release notes for 2022.10. It mentions that FreeType fonts are now useable, and there's a rendering fix for titles in 1080i/50. Curious to hear what other improvements have been made to Titler+ in this release as we sail towards the end of another year - thanks.

As everyone knows with Titler+ there have been hundreds and hundreds of feature requests and bug fixes requested. The new team that was assigned to Titler+ is aware of them all. They have the giant list, and have completed many; are actively workin on many; and have many scheduled for upcoming releases.

Sometimes a new version comes out that had a high number of front-end work like new features and physical improvements made to it, but a low number of bug fixes.

Or, there's a lot of bug work done, and you see less front-end work. 

Or, there's one large feature request that takes a lot more staffers to work on in order to accomplish.

The important thing to know is that every single release is getting more done to it.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, Chris. However, my query was to what specific improvements are found in 2022.10 - to this you did not add. I did go back to the bug fix list, and believe three are related to Titler+, though none are what collectively seem to be the most needed fixes.

You are the chief cheerleader for Titler+, a difficult position at best. We are not looking for how aware the Titler+ team is concerning the myriad problems, or how hard they might be working on it - we are looking for specific solutions, i.e. results, either in Titler+ or a CG tool that is useable, dependable, action repeatable - and available in an actual MC update release. Four + years on w/ Titler+, and still most imperfect - but you already know this. Meanwhile I appreciate your continuing efforts to get a decent CG (back) into MC again.

As Chris inferred, there is a new team that is focused entirely on Titler+. I'm not speculating on anything, but that should tell you something. Avid is hard at work on it.

Adman:

As Chris inferred, there is a new team that is focused entirely on Titler+. I'm not speculating on anything, but that should tell you something. Avid is hard at work on it.

Another new team? I was told by an Avid Customer Advocate that there was a new team to be formed in January 2021, almost two years ago. She related a bit about the sad Titler+ disfunctional history (lintroduced 2+ years prior to our December 2020 conversation), and felt confident that significant improvements would be happening later in 2021 releases re: Titler+; history proves "not so much so" on the improve, again, almost two years later. 

Hi all.  No, the January 2021 team is the same new team I'm referring to. 

Software development isn't as fast as taking a hammer to a nail, and so that's the team that has finally this year been able to roll-out many of the changes and fixes on the list... and there's still more work to do.

Oh my gosh it's like listening to a broken record! Just wondering what Avid's timeline for this is? 4 years so far - another 4? Not asking for hammer to nail, but less than half a decade to get a title tool for Mac would be lovely. I'm not sure anyone is buying this "all our resources are on it" line. If that's the case, you're under-resourced or poorly managed or both. Dave even said in another thread that the September (turned out to be October) release would be "significant", yet when I viewed the release notes all I could think was oh great, another bunch of bin menu tweaks - it's like you're obsessed with superficial interface adjustments at the moment. 

Nothing personal as always, but what a shambles.

Andi

Chris Bové:

Sometimes a new version comes out that had a high number of front-end work like new features and physical improvements made to it, but a low number of bug fixes.

Or, there's a lot of bug work done, and you see less front-end work. 

Or, there's one large feature request that takes a lot more staffers to work on in order to accomplish.

The important thing to know is that every single release is getting more done to it.

I'm afraid Chris, Andi has a real point. All anyone ever wanted was the classic title tool to work in 64bit UHD/4K, how can that be so complicated? Why does it take 'a lot more staffers' to re-invent the wheel backwards, with too many bells and whistles, for so long? All of us have been telling you that's all we wanted, for so long now - it's like, if you'll forgive me, developing a supercomputer to toast bread.

Make this guy President. I would gladly start a Go fund me page if it facilitated making a 64 bit version of the classic title tool.

...Coming into this after ignoring Titler+ (and video editing in general for two years)....yup, its buggy...and hard to use.....

....so, ignore it while AVID works on it and enjoy the heck out of Titler Pro Express!   That program is light years ahead of Titler+ and can either embed in your clip or on a submaster track or export a clean version as a Matte Key....what's not to like?

...and have you seen the projects and styles?   Much more than titles here....so, Titler+ is buggy but there is a more than capable replacement.  Learn to use TPE and you will be happy you took the time to do it.

Since the classic title tool was dropped some of us on the PC side have had the benefit of eaking it out but for many using Avid in TV post using 3rd party solutions is very problematic. moving projects between systems and even different facility houses becomes a nightmare when you discover you can't alter or work on the titles because the last editor use a titling tool you don't have or the versions don't match. 

Thats why the cry for the inbuilt tool to work has been so strong. Many editors don't need a 3D super fancy titler. Just a working version of what we had for many years.

Having taught Avid for decades now I can't see how the current Titler + can ever be a simple title option. Its just not intuitive to use. And untill its stable you can't, and haven't been able to for years now, teach on it. Its just not possible to demonstrate and teach a product that different to what it was last week and willbe different in 3 week. Univercities often run with older Avid versions that won't get updated till the next year. So you end up with whatever broken version of Title + was current when they installed.

Its a mess. I'be resorted to explaining the situation. Letting them see basically how it works but doing titles in all the other ways including using After Effects.

....am i missing something?  the title tool is available in my MC 2022.12

....and the New Blue titler is included in the subscriprion so everyone should be able to use it

.....i just realized the TPE version may not allow exporting as a file...i have an older full version of Titler 6 installed and it has that feature and it shows up in the AVID TPE interface 

Robert Martindale:

am i missing something?  the title tool is available in my MC 2022.12

If you are using a Windows or a pre-Catalina MacOS system, the legacy title tool still works as it always did.

Pat Horridge:

 Many editors don't need a 3D super fancy titler. Just a working version of what we had for many years.

...doing titles in all the other ways including using After Effects.

I just installed MC v2022.12 on PC. 

Re: Titler+: When I first playback timeline with a static, 3-line, 3-layer Titler+ title, my system generates a slow/jumpy  timeline playback with the corresponding "red line" indicator. I usually don't see much of that, on my system with HD.

This is in a 1080i Project. When I add a legacy 3-line Title Tool title to the end of the same timeline, it plays smooth as silk, as expected. (this on an unqualified, Dell XPS workstation, 32 GB ram which has served MC well since v2018, or earlier.)

My workspace uses a docked Effects Editor, positioned as a vertical tab to the right of Timeline, beneath Composer. I would appreciate it if HQ would consider allowing the "T+" icon to be mapped somewhere within Effects Editor, or just always be available in there. Or make the "T+" floating tool dockable within a workspace.

Clicking the "T+" icon enables the small floating Titler+ tool. However, it disappears as soon as 
I enter Trim mode*, and also: my docked Effects Editor, which was displaying the full Titler+ interface for the title the cursor was parked on.... disappears (goes blank, while still docked). At which point, I need to re-click on my mapped "T+" icon, (which incidentally, does not bring back the floating Titler+ tool as quickly as other MC tools). And then followed by the docked Effects Editor, showing its re-populated Titler+ interface. ** 

Other than that, the Titler+ images look very good, thanks. 

How about this feature request, which was made a while back in this forum, from other editors: Is there any way to create an aplha matte Export function for Titler+, either from a saved-to-bin Titler+ effect, or by some other method? Perhaps an MC AMA link or import of a PNG (or PNG sequence) or other file format, would offer improved timeline playback overall for those willing to take that extra step? It might also be preferred when collaborating with MC editors who are using different versions of Titler+/MC...

Thanks for considering!

*I do not want to lose access to Effects Editor, just because I may want to pop into Trim mode while composing a Title+ title. Sometimes I may want to do a Slide Trim of an existing V2 Filler segment containing a Titler+ title... so that I can take advantage of "Play Loop" previews over V1. as it stands now, I need to re-click my "T+" icon, so it is not ideal.

** If others are NOT losing their docked Effects Editor when entering Trim mode while parked on a Titler+ title,  please let me know. It all may be caused by my (unqualified) PC hardware.