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  • Mon, Jan 18 2016 11:00 PM

    • ArrowStarr
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    Advanced keyframes WHY WHY WHY

    Why did you mess with the perfectly effective keyframe methods from AVID 3.0.  Using 5.3 now and I HATE IT!!!!!!! Considering Adobe Premier now after 14 years on Media Composer.

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    A simple picture in picture move now requires a degree in engineering to make it work.  Driving me crazy!!!!!!  It used to be so easy! simple, add a keyframe, adjust you picture, add another one, adjust your picture, hit play, render, DONE.

     

    I purposly never upgradded for so many years because 3.0 worked so well there was NO NEED to mess with it. I regret it now.

     

    Sorry for the rant.  Have to position nine pictures on the screen and what used to take me 10 minutes now has taken me over 4 hours and still not working right.!  I set one keyframe, copy paste to another, but in between there should be a straight line move because there are no other keyframes inserted, but noooooo, the picture is flying all over the place and there aren't even any keyframes there?????

    Again, sorry for the rant!

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  • Tue, Jan 19 2016 12:05 AM In reply to

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    Re: Advanced keyframes WHY WHY WHY

    Can you explain more? 

    I vaguely remember changes to the keyframes a number of versions ago, but I've had none of the problems you describe. I still find keyframing pretty straightforward.

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  • Tue, Jan 19 2016 12:16 AM In reply to

    • ArrowStarr
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    Re: Advanced keyframes WHY WHY WHY

    Sure,

    I enter a keyframe at the start of the clip in the effect editor.  I enter a second keyframe 10 frames ahead and then a third keyframe at the end of the clip. I want my clip to enlarge from infinity (1st keyframe scaling set at 0) At the second keyframe 10 frames in I set the scaling at 100.  So far so good.  I want my clip to remain at 100 scaling so I copy the keyframe and paste on the last keyframe.  Between the 2nd and theird keyframes, the clip moves.  I copy pasted so it shouldn't but it does.  Also, when I park the cursor on the last keyframe, all the parameter number disappear.  I have numerous more examples of how the basic picture in picture no longer works correctly.  But that's the basics.  

    Thanks for asking

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  • Tue, Jan 19 2016 5:18 AM In reply to

    Re: Advanced keyframes WHY WHY WHY

    You should be able to delete the third keyframe, and the scale parameter will just stay at 100.

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  • Tue, Jan 19 2016 2:05 PM In reply to

    • ArrowStarr
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    Re: Advanced keyframes WHY WHY WHY

    Thank you for that tip camoscato

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  • Tue, Jan 19 2016 3:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: Advanced keyframes WHY WHY WHY

    If it makes you feel any better, I've been using "advanced" keyframes since they were introduced, and I still hate them. The current implementation is desgigned for amateurs, not professional editors. They slow down my workflow since more often than not, I simply want to add an effect without animating parameters. Now I often need to find and remove keyframes Avid adds while I tweak the effect.  It's a terrible implementation. Every other keyframe-capable application has an obvious button to toggle adding keyframes manually, or automatically.  I am almost positive that this "feature" was forced upon the software by upper-level management rather than through editor request.  I can't imagine people who use the software often would have wanted non-toggle "advanced" keyframes. We need to be able to turn them off. Currently, I think they're laughably bad.

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  • Tue, Jan 19 2016 3:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: Advanced keyframes WHY WHY WHY

    Thanks Atomike,

    There is comfort in shared misery. Also, loved your tagline about sharing time between

    LA and NY. Go Cornhuskers!

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  • Tue, Jan 19 2016 5:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: Advanced keyframes WHY WHY WHY

    If I recall correctly, earlier versions of the "Advanced" keyframes defaulted to spline not linear between keyframes, causing the drifts you described between keyframes. Right click on the top track in hte FX editor and check if spline or linear is selected. Thankfully that obnoxious feature was changed in a later update to default to linear.

    good luck

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  • Tue, Jan 19 2016 7:36 PM In reply to

    • ArrowStarr
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    Re: Advanced keyframes WHY WHY WHY

    Thanks Tugger,

    I'm not real sure what you mean by the TOP TRACK of the effect editor.  I see no tracks when I open it up.  I did open the advanced keyframes, clicked on the first keyframe, right clicked and checked linear, but it didn't seem to make a difference.

     

    dm

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